September 25, 2014

Lance Berelowitz: "How Other Cities Do It, and Why Can’t We?"

How Other Cities Do It, and Why Can’t We?

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  1. I remember living in Seoul, in an apartment building above a grocery store. The store sold bottled (plastic actually) beer. Over time, a pub opened across the street and I guess he was losing sales. So, he bought some plastic lawn chairs and tables, and just set up a patio on the sidewalk outside his corner store and sold beer by the glass. He now had the advantage of being able to sit outside on the street rather than in the pub. It was great. No red tape, no regulations, he just did it.
    I get why we have regs and rules, but it’s often a race to the bottom.

  2. I agree with the sentiment that it’s up to people everywhere to shape their cities. And certainly there are places where Vancouver could be improved.
    BUT:
    Vancouver is an awesome city. This piece reads like Vancouver is a one-horse town, and that’s simply not true. Go to the beach in the summer, go to Granville Island, go to Robson Square or the Art Gallery, Stanley Park, or any of a number of other places, and you’ll see life, and lots of it.
    Try seeing Vancouver from the eyes of a tourist (as you did all these other places). It’s easier to think that the grass is greener, but comparing one place on vacation to another place during “regular life” doesn’t work.

  3. Good sentiments, agree that we can do a lot more with animating our waterfronts, street festivals and beer “gardens”, for sure.
    But I really do have to agree with Agustine here. This is no one-horse town by any means. My American visitors all attest to this vitality. Born in New Orleans, I know what a no-holds-barred city – or party zone – looks and feels like. But to make it livable, there have to be places in our dense city where livability (i.e., relative peace and quiet after a certain time) is still possible. Yes, even downtown, where I live. I have to draw the line with amplified music/busking on the street below after, say, 10pm, relying like everybody else on open windows for our fresh (?) air as we all do.
    (BTW – before anybody says “you knew it was like that when you moved there”, not so fast. I am a pioneer of the first phase in International Village. There was no there, there, then. It has all been created in the past two decades. Nobody envisioned it becoming the party central part of the city at the time, I assure you. No, more like the rest of Concord Pacific, of which it is the illegitimate off-spring.)

  4. I completely agree with the sentiment expressed in the piece. Vancouver is a lovely city, but perhaps the government has its fingers in too many places.
    There is an emphasis on stability and control. When there is an problem, the instinct is to write a law. The consensus assumes legislation is benign and responsible and reasonable.
    Many other cities are more comfortable allowing things to occur without explicit government approval. Our laws create a clean, livable, safe, stable, and slightly boring and uninnovative city. Many deny the moniker “no-fun city”, but every nickname has a grain of truth to it. Fun requires delightful unpredictability, and our statism enforces a predictable livability.
    What better expresses the point than this story?
    http://www.vancitybuzz.com/2014/09/lululemon-founder-paints-mural-commissioned-home/

  5. http://www.vancitybuzz.com/2014/09/vancouver-considers-restrictions-e-cigarettes/
    And again. Regulations, restrictions, rules. For the public good.
    http://www.vancouversun.com/entertainment/Price+hikes+mean+happy+hour+some/9960788/story.html
    The Fringe Cafe in Kits sells pitchers of beer (with a side of nachos) for $10, which is under the new minimum price of $15. I asked the bartender how they get away with this, and, with a smirk, he told me they sell the nachos for $10 and the pitcher is complimentary. He said it’s only a matter of time before the regulators fine them, and end the deal … for the public good.

    1. Totally Agree Jimbo. I took out a few visiting Americans friends a few friends ago. I decided Main Street around broadway was a safe bet with the amount of bars, etc. It was 10pm and we decided to try the new Micro breweries around Main & 7th, first to Main Street Brewery, too full to let anyone in, then we walked down to The Whip, there was an hour wait, ok lets walk down to Brassneck Brewery, line up out the door so we didn’t bother. At this stage I was starting to panic as showing my tourist buddies a good time was quickly evaporating as last call is 1:30am. So it was up to the Cascade, 45 mins for a table, so no go. We ended up walking back down to barneys cafe and had a late meal and a few beers, and then we tried to get into the Brickhouse in Chinatown and they turned us away at 11:30 saying they were full.
      Now I realize Mount Pleasant is the place to be but if the city is going to densify as it is, it should seriously start look at freeing up some liquor licenses so people can at least walk to there neighbourhood bar with friends and enjoy a sensible night out, good conversation, etc. My friends have been trying to open a bar for over 2 years now on Fraser Street, no dice. Another buddy moved into a shared house with other young people around Kingsway and Slocan/33rd., I asked where’s you local? And he said there’s no bars around here. Not everyone who likes to go out for a Pint need be vilified by the city as a binge drinking Granville Street raver. More places to meet up please.

      1. Sounds familiar, Scot.
        There is a certain philosophy in Vancouver. Something along the lines of “peace, order, and good governance”.
        Nothing like, say, “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness”.
        When you pause and really inspect the two mottos, a lot can be understood.
        There is more of a willingness here to allow the authorities to shape our lives in ways they feel would be good for us.

        1. Too bad they don’t put that good governance energy into cigarette butt enforcement and removal. The streets of this city are turning into one big ashtray. Has anyone walked down any section of Granville street lately? How hard is it to have a city crew go around with a vacuum backpack and suck cigarettes up and fine the people who love to flick their buts everywhere?

  6. This is a great article with many true points, but it seems to me that a lot of the relaxed laws and regulations mentioned would fall under provincial jurisdiction here, not municipal.
    And the provincial government has little interest in rocking the boat by tweaking laws that would enhance livability in our cities. No shortage of time to chase the LNG dream, sell our resources to the lowest foreign bidder, or keep grinding away at organized labour, of course.
    And how much of it comes down to deep cultural differences too? I once had the pleasure to attend the Fête de la Musique in Paris. Massive crowds, filling the streets all over the city, roving bands playing loudly long into the night. The gutters were lined with bottles of wine (all cleaned up by the crazy efficient street cleaners by morning) by the time things began to thin out, but nobody was fighting or causing trouble. Really great atmosphere.
    Could we do the same with our North American culture? Or would some people just use it as an excuse to act like louts and ruin the whole thing?

      1. 2 Word counterpoint: The Olympics!
        As well as all the other hockey playoff nights except for the final. I was walking around one night downtown after a win, and the streets were full of happy, celebrating people. Never high fived so many strangers in my life! Plenty of intoxicated people, but no fighting or breaking things.
        So maybe the riot was the exception rather than the rule.
        We assume that any large scale, free form urban celebration will degenerate to chaos, but we haven’t really experimented with it properly.
        It would be a shame if the powers that be said “Whelp there was a riot once. Never trying anything like that again.”

  7. “Florence” really? Is that an example. OK I was only there for a couple of weeks, but some of the public spaces I saw there were simply dreadful. And have been for a very long time. The big bare space in front of the Pitti Palace, for instance. The hideous waste of surface space in front of the main railway station (SMN) where the retail has been buried underground to facilitate car access, or the bleak, dusty Piazza Indipendenza. The huge park at Cascine which was deserted when we visited. The equally unused space around the hideous Opera House.
    I admit I did enjoy the beach next to the Arno, even if they had not been able to devise a way to make it safe to swim there, the adjacent car/cafe terrace was delightful – and one of the very few in an area which gets lots of foot traffic.
    The bike lane along the Lungarno Torrigiani sucks too, by the way. All documented on flickr stream of course

  8. Great comments. Like Agustin I’m on board with the sentiment but would recognise the one-sided hyperbole in the fun black and white polemic, i.e. that the truth is slightly more grey.
    Mark’s point about the most annoying things probably being provincial law is a good one too, but since that’s enforced by City police, I’d love to see them get on board with a fun agenda and turn more blind eyes to the urban-life-buzzkilling stuff, focusing on the important stuff. (Bike helmets spring to mind, but also romantic wine with picnics etc.)
    It’s a shame Mark then went on raise the predictable canard of culture. Culture/identity is shaped by behavior (“I act his way, I must therefore be this sort of a person.”) which in turn is shaped by laws/regs/infrastructure investments (e.g. build motordom, get self-identifying drivers; ban booze and happy cycling, get stony-faced-doom-mongers). Transitions can’t be instantaneous, but no culture is exogenous or static.

  9. “Every time I return to Vancouver from a trip to one or another foreign city…………….
    Barcelona, Malaga, Sydney, Marseilles, Nice, Avignon, Granada, Cadiz, Florence, Lucca, Amsterdam, Brighton, Cape Town, Puerto Vallarta, Portland, Tel Aviv…………….”
    So what you’re saying is that your very privileged life style has produced well over a 1000 tons* of CO2 so that you can whine in a public forum about coming home? *just guessing!

    1. Are we not suppose to listen to other ideas just because they are reported back from other places? Gord travels all around the world sharing ideas from Vancouver and vice versa and you listen to him. Maybe he offsets his carbon like Gord does.

      1. I’m a bit confused on how carbon offsets work in slowing (halting/reversing?)climate change caused by burning lots of fuel at high altitudes. Can anyone help?

    2. It’s true that most of us don’t have the privilege to travel the world, but I appreciate when those that do at least try to bring back something helpful for the rest of us back home, instead of just tourist trinkets and photographs!
      A lot of the time we don’t even realize that things can be done better or differently until we go and experience them elsewhere. Wide perspectives are a good thing.

  10. I just want to second the thoughts of the people who note the difference between being a tourist in a city and actually living in a city. I have been to a fair number of places including a lot of the places listed and Vancouver comes out as a pretty good place to live…….that does not mean that there is not room to improve. The beer garden example for instance….a great meeting place/plaza downtown would be another….It also does not mean we can’t learn from other places, we should, including how to reduce unnecessary regulations (the key is unnecessary). On the other hand many of those regulations have contributed to what Vancouver is today and what it is today is pretty good so be careful which regulations we remove…..

  11. I have to agree with the general sentiment here, that Vancouver has some over-regulation. Especially in zoning laws, for example, where many options for low-cost housing are unfortunately not allowed in any zone. I’m thinking especially about minimum lot and house sizes, which keep the price of basic housing unnecessarily high.

      1. Uber getting shut down by the BC authorities really bothered me.
        Because the service has such potential to reshape the city. Taxi use has fallen in san fran by 65% since introduction of the service.
        http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2014/09/what-uber-is-doing-to-cabs-in-san-francisco-in-1-crazy-chart/380378/
        In a city like Vancouver with such expensive, over-regulated cabs, a new technology like Uber would really shake things up for the better.

  12. Lovely article. I’m in the middle of a trip from Ibiza to Zurich, and without surprise, every city I’ve visited has a vastly more successful public space than Vancouver, even little vaduz.
    As a property builder in Vancouver, I cannot but agree that Vancouver is one of the most regulated cities I’ve encountered. From Montpellier to my home town of cape town, and many in between, all of those cities have undergone rapid transformation to pedestrian and cycle filled centres. Alas Vancouver has remained relatively stagnant, and I fear this will not change for at least another generation. We are still figuring out that a city with a rainy climate needs more spontaneity to take advantage of those surprise sunny days between October and July, or those glorious warm months of the summer.
    By the way, Lance, our families share the same last name. Curious.

    1. Cape Town rapid transformation to pedestrian and cycle filled centres, don’t think so. The downtown near the waterfront is covered in motorway flyovers and V&A waterfront doesn’t connect with anything. Bad example all around.

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