Let’s call it Burrard Inlet, if we are being precise. English Bay is in the foreground, but is just the portion near the shore, between Stanley Park and Kitsilano, not the portion where the freighters are anchored. The definition of harbour is a sheltered area where ships find shelter. Check.
Burrard Inlet is divided into the outer harbour (this one), the inner harbour (where the Port is), and then the area after Second Narrows, then the two arms.
So this does appear to be Vancouver Harbour, just not all of it.
Nice photo, Ken.
Seriously ? Burrard inlet would be after Lionsgate bridge. Hence the in in inlet. I’d call this bay between W-Van’s Lighthouse Park, west end, Kits and UBC English Bay.
Seriously? Even after looking at the map in the next post? You did look at the map, didn’t you?
You could call it that, but why not use the correct name? Might not be known in Edmonton, but reportedly many years ago a sailing ship was anchored near Kits, and a larger British ship arrived. They needed to anchor near shore. The first ship moved along to just past Jericho, and the British ship anchored near Kits. The first ship was a Spanish ship. They named the locations Spanish Banks and English Bay.
Using your definition, Spanish banks is in English Bay. How would that work?
Yes I saw the map. I questioned the map. Wikipedia is not always right you know. The “inlet” starts at Lionsgate to me, and most locals and tourists, I’d say.
From this entry it is not clear: http://www.britannica.com/place/Burrard-Inlet but this map seems to confirm your theory that anything east of Point Atkinson (Lighthouse Park) is Burrard inlet: http://searcharchives.vancouver.ca/burrard-inlet-6
Anyway .. I learned s.th.
Why do you mention Edmonton ?
Wikipedia is certainly not always right, but it had a convenient snapshot. It is too difficult to take a photo of the marine charts and post it. If you prefer, take a look at the Gov of BC site. The following map also shows where English Bay is. http://www.env.gov.bc.ca/wat/wq/objectives/burrardinlet/burrardinlet-02.html
I mentioned Edmonton because you often refer to Alberta and I wouldn’t expect that local Vancouver history such as the naming of English Bay and Spanish Banks is discussed much there. It wasn’t when I lived there.
It seemed worth looking up, being a recollection from long ago school days. June 1792. The English ship was captained by George Vancouver. There were two Spanish ships, captained by Valdes and Galiano. Names of the bay and the banks were in popular use but were confirmed by a British survey of Burrard Inlet in 1859.
Vancouver, who gave the Inlet its name, did not sail into the Inner Harbour — i,e, past Lion’s Gate. It would be surprising if he named only the part he didn’t see.
Didn’t mean to create a stir…
I guess I equate “harbour” with “port”, which is largely east of Lions Gate Bridge.
I’ve never heard of the inlet being divided into 3 sections of harbour – but I’m not a sea captain.
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Isn’t that English Bay (not the harbour)?
(i.e. wrong side of Stanley Park)
Let’s call it the Harbour’s parking lot to be precise …
Let’s call it Burrard Inlet, if we are being precise. English Bay is in the foreground, but is just the portion near the shore, between Stanley Park and Kitsilano, not the portion where the freighters are anchored. The definition of harbour is a sheltered area where ships find shelter. Check.
Burrard Inlet is divided into the outer harbour (this one), the inner harbour (where the Port is), and then the area after Second Narrows, then the two arms.
So this does appear to be Vancouver Harbour, just not all of it.
Nice photo, Ken.
Seriously ? Burrard inlet would be after Lionsgate bridge. Hence the in in inlet. I’d call this bay between W-Van’s Lighthouse Park, west end, Kits and UBC English Bay.
Seriously? Even after looking at the map in the next post? You did look at the map, didn’t you?
You could call it that, but why not use the correct name? Might not be known in Edmonton, but reportedly many years ago a sailing ship was anchored near Kits, and a larger British ship arrived. They needed to anchor near shore. The first ship moved along to just past Jericho, and the British ship anchored near Kits. The first ship was a Spanish ship. They named the locations Spanish Banks and English Bay.
Using your definition, Spanish banks is in English Bay. How would that work?
Yes I saw the map. I questioned the map. Wikipedia is not always right you know. The “inlet” starts at Lionsgate to me, and most locals and tourists, I’d say.
From this entry it is not clear: http://www.britannica.com/place/Burrard-Inlet but this map seems to confirm your theory that anything east of Point Atkinson (Lighthouse Park) is Burrard inlet: http://searcharchives.vancouver.ca/burrard-inlet-6
Anyway .. I learned s.th.
Why do you mention Edmonton ?
Wikipedia is certainly not always right, but it had a convenient snapshot. It is too difficult to take a photo of the marine charts and post it. If you prefer, take a look at the Gov of BC site. The following map also shows where English Bay is.
http://www.env.gov.bc.ca/wat/wq/objectives/burrardinlet/burrardinlet-02.html
I mentioned Edmonton because you often refer to Alberta and I wouldn’t expect that local Vancouver history such as the naming of English Bay and Spanish Banks is discussed much there. It wasn’t when I lived there.
It seemed worth looking up, being a recollection from long ago school days. June 1792. The English ship was captained by George Vancouver. There were two Spanish ships, captained by Valdes and Galiano. Names of the bay and the banks were in popular use but were confirmed by a British survey of Burrard Inlet in 1859.
Burrard Inlet map
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bb/Burrard-Inlet-map-en.svg
Vancouver, who gave the Inlet its name, did not sail into the Inner Harbour — i,e, past Lion’s Gate. It would be surprising if he named only the part he didn’t see.
Didn’t mean to create a stir…
I guess I equate “harbour” with “port”, which is largely east of Lions Gate Bridge.
I’ve never heard of the inlet being divided into 3 sections of harbour – but I’m not a sea captain.