Hello Gordon,
A few initial observations from overseas:
1. Vancouver
Not disappointed that Gregor & Vision got another mandate. They deserve it, though I hope that there will be some changes in the way Council conducts themselves in dealing with the public (not to say that they should cave on implementing their plans, but managing public process better and genuinely listening).
A change at the top of the administration would definitely help, and perhaps restore morale at City Hall.
I am happy to see Geoff Meggs re-elected, though he came perilously close, and there are one or two deadheads (both Vision and NPA) who I would rather have seen bumped for fresh and brighter talent. COPE finished as they should – nowhere.
2. City of North Vancouver –
Glad to have Darrell, Craig and Linda back. Distressing to see how close Kerry Morris came – a bona fide homophobe and bigot. Also disappointed to see Rod Clark get re-elected. He is by no means a credit to the City.
3. District of North Van
Interesting to see Lisa Muri and Doug Mackay-Dunn take top spots, given their mostly anti-growth voting. With several new faces on board, it will be interesting to see if this Council has the will and the guts to implement its OCP. That seemed to be a struggle for the last Council – which adopted it.
Vision got a scare. They lost control of the school board and the park board, had their council majority reduced and had a closer call than usual in the mayoralty results. The main reason for the setbacks, at first glance, seems to be COPE’s lack of cooperation with Vision this time around. The centre-left vote was split. So I don’t think Vision will need to make major policy adjustments, but they’ll want to do some tweaking with regard to public perception of their commitment to community consultation, density targets along transportation corridors and ability to solve homelessness.
I see COPE as very different to Vision and I know that they totally reject the link now. They see Vision for what they are, which is a faux green party, in bed with developers and run by a millionaire who is funded by Americans like The Tides Foundation. COPE voters feel that COPE is a truer left wing option, not Vision light.
Vision ran a very smart campaign. At the end of the day GOTV (get out the vote) is what matters most and they succeeded at that.
My hope now is that with a four year mandate there will be a more collaborative spirit at City Hall and will tackle planning and affordable housing in a thoughtful way.
On to the transit referendum. Not too many serious changes to the Mayors who form the Mayor’s council. Next step — find a leader.
After that — what do we do with Jericho, RCMP HQ, Arbutus corridor . . .
Oh yes – and finish the work on the new Point Grey Road.
For fun, keep watch on Kirk LaPointe (he’s come, he’s gone). Like Susanne Anton, does he get rewarded with a place in that Neocon / Fraser Institute world of Clark Provincial or Harper Federal gov’t? Maybe he can front their climate change denial efforts.
Yes, PGR can now proceed with the upgrades to the sewers, improved lighting, sidewalk widening, installing the cul de sac at Trutch, repaving and better signage. A half-done project has been quite frustrating to live with, causing some uncertainty for commuters and others to figure out which way they should go. Looking forward to finalizing the project.
The electoral results map will be quite telling, now and we’ll into the future. If the North vs. south of 16th Avenue divide holds, it will show that generally denser areas prefer the centre left while the less dense or suburban areas prefer centre right. Similar to blue and red states in the US of A.
If true, it will also show that the GW Plan and Rize kerfuffles didn’t tick off their respectives ‘hoods as a lot of people might have thought. Certainly my millennial children living in Mt. Pleasant and central Main Street remained pro-Vision (bikes, environment, etc., etc.).
The Mount Pleasant and Granview votes were actually the most interesting of the evening. For all the noise we’ve heard over the past months about disgust with Vision in these neighbourhoods, they went for Robertson and incumbent Vision councillors at crushing margins.
It was obvious from very early in the campaign that COPE wasn’t going to be a viable alternative to Vision and NPA is still not aligned with the core values of Mount Pleasant and GW.
I was concerned that voters in these neighbourhoods were going to be unhappy with Vision enough to just stay home on election day, but clearly the thought of NPA rule was distressing enough that they came out and voted.
“f the North vs. south of 16th Avenue divide holds, it will show that generally denser areas prefer the centre left while the less dense or suburban areas prefer centre right.”
Good point. I’d note that that gives Vision an incentive to densify wherever it’s politically possible – if they can bring in new voters without annoying too many existing residents, it’s a win for them. I’m quite happy with that.
For those who like numbers: Vision Mayor got 46.0% of popular vote (53.2 % in 2011). NPA mayor: 40.2 % (40.4 % in 2011). Wong 9.2% (2.8% in 2011 for Helten). Looks like a classic vote-split, with NPA’s share staying near to identical.
Council: Vision (6) down one; NPA (3) up one; Green (1) stays the same. Still a comfortable Vision majority.
Parks: Vision (1) down 4, NPA (4) up 2; Greens (2) up 2. Now NPA-controlled.
School: Vision (4) down one, NPA (4) up one, Green (1) up one — holding balance of power.
All money measures pass easily with 2:1 majority.
I figured Roberson would win, but not by the margin he did. I am surprised that LaPointe received a smaller share of the popular vote than Anton did in 2011.
Glad to see some more balance on council, yet with a majority to get things through. Will be interesting to see how the school board lines up.
For the next 4 years, until Nov 2018, we’ll see:
– some distasteful battles with the Vision Council attempting to override the Park Board’s jurisdiction.
– Broadway mega-transit is dead, a good thing, as now the clear task is to properly populate Jericho, instead of daily shipping students & staff across town from less-pricey housing in East Van to campus.
– possibly 1 or 2 Vision councillors running (w/o losing a coumcil majority) for the Nearly Dead Party in the May 2017 provincial election, and then – if they’re in a riding that safely votes for a losing party – resigning, causing a mid-term byelection. The only motivation is to bump up from $68k to $102k/annum.
– come to think of it, a skip from majority rule at the civic level to the perpetual comfort of MLA opposition might be a safe move, if after a decade-long regime, Vision is decimated at the next civic election. Yes, I too thought of the end of the lost decade – BC has a history of almost extincting the Left if they’re given too much term. However, there’s enough transparency in large cities (and Vision has enough decency), not to see a repeat of the criminality of BingoGate, CasinoGate, etc.
– I agree with Chuck above, although ‘dead wood’ is the word I’d use. There were a handful of genuine candidates – of various stripes – that would have added much more value rather than old dawg Tim Stevenson, who I believe will be 75 or so when this next term ends. Shows how slavishly blind Vision voters can be; many may be unaware he came from that oportunistic, late 90s NDP, the most corrupt (and criminal) regime in BC history. His sole purpose now is to be nudged awake by Heather to raise a hand to make sure a Vision vote passes. Would be better to allow someone like Reimer or Meggs to use both hands.
I always figured Vision was the centre. For those further to the right, they look like the left. For those further to the left, they look like the right. For those against the unions, they appear union driven. For those against developers, they appear developer driven.
I can assure you that any builder or architect or developer I know (and I know a few) are happy with Vision because they know how developer friendly Vision is. Vision has progressive, left leaning ideas, but at the same time, market driven, capitalist aspirations with the masses of development. They are very devious at treading both political ideals. Nice and green, opposing tankers they can do zero about and building bike lanes. At the same time, they hire a campaign strategist straight from Christy Clark’s campaign and a another guy who was a lobbyist for Chevron. Sneaky!
So Gregor was elected on a promise of no tankers (see above) and his number one priority, a Broadway subway, which I am certain will go nowhere. Certainly not in this term.
So I would disagree with Jeff because I think they have their foot in different political areas and they hide these strange alliances very well. COPE is the true left. I see Green as a moderate left and NPA as a more centrist, progressive party. I know they were constantly called out as being right and even far right, but their policies and candidates just don’t support that smear. They have candidates who are passionate about supporting arts, they introduced more bike lanes than Vision has, they saved the Bloedel Conservatory and they have done no less for the DTES than Vision, but Vision promised much more and failed miserably. In fact, the NPA fully support Insight, which was created under the NPA as well. Yes, the same Insight that Harper tried to shut down. How does that vibe with the NPA being in the same camp as Harper? It just doesn’t.
I always find it amusing that people think transit is solely and completely about people travelling from one end of a transit line to the other. And for some reason no one ever gets on or off in the middle. Except that they do, always.
If ever you ride a transit line (in any city, and Metro Vancouver is no exception), you will see this is true. Check out the Metrotown station, for example.
I think the Broadway subway is alive and well, and its purpose is to move people back and forth along BC’s second-largest employment area. And yes, there will be many sub-groups among them. Medical workers, retail workers, students, people connecting to Canada Line for Richmond, downtown or the airport.
It is also likely that the line will now include a station at the Jericho lands. This will vastly influence the development there, and may draw the Provincial Gov’t into transit, since this station will greatly influence the value of the large and lucrative Jericho Hill lands to the west of the Jericho Garrison lands now in play.
Oh what fun it is to play on a sunny bright new day.
As long as there is a Federal Conservative government there will be no money flowing to Vancouver for megaprojects. Surrey will be first in line for any largesse in that department. The same will hold true at the provincial level while the BC Liberals are in power.
Exactly; the subway is neither alive nor well, in fact, has been neither. Can’t have a 3-person card game with 1 person. Sufficient density in Jericho will free up considerable capacity of the existing, daylighted bus system.
By the time funding is needed, we will likely have a new federal government that is more suportive of transit and not wasting money on unneeded tax cuts for people that don’t need them. Many of the people involved with the other two federal parties are also involved in Vision.
“new federal government” .. don’t count on it as the economy is humming and life is GREAT in Canada .. far better than elsewhere .. tax cuts for families is EXACTLY what is required in a country too reliant on (excessive) immigration .. more babies “made in Canada” is what we need.
Taxation levels (GST, corporate taxes and income taxes) are far FAR too high on the federal level .. and if they were lower we could tax higher on the local / city level to build public transit.
Cities need to tax more, for example local sales taxes, and feds far less.
Indeed. Alma @ Broadway is only a few blocks from Jericho Lands and with high density there a subway below Broadway makes sense to at least there, as opposed to Arbutus, and then onwards towards UBC, perhaps as a surface LRT line along 4th as there is space and no housing.
we shall see. maybe I live to see it. maybe by 2040 ?
It’s puzzling that voters punished Vision at the Parks Board level but not at Council though Meggs seemed in danger of reaping anger directed at them.
LaPointe did well for someone nobody had heard of a few months ago. Maybe he’ll try to unseat David Eby in the next provincial election. Surprised another Green wasn’t added to Council.
I almost forgot. More political learning opportunities are out there, aside from watching Mr. LaPointe and the possibility of him reaping his reward.
What will happen to the lawsuit Vision launched against the NPA? Was it serious, or was it an election stunt, or both? Will it slither ignominiously to a negotiated settlement? Will it erupt in lawyerly flamboyance at a hearing or trial?
Hopefully a negotiated settlement with an apology. LaPointe used a phrase in his concession speech about “the campaign not bringing out the best in us” which I took as a reference to the ads.
If it did go to court, it would mean that Vision has to defend it’s relationship with CUPE, which might reveal things they would rather not reveal. I suspect it will drift away. Otherwise, wait to see a statement of defence from NPA, but I doubt it will even get there. More an election stunt, it seems.
I hope Vision follows through on the defamation suit against the NPA; it would set a precedent going forward to dissuade candidates in future elections from resorting to overt dishonesty in an attempt to gain votes.
The article is interesting. As I say, I will be interested to read the NPA statement of defense, but it seems to me that if you go to a meeting and ask for a donation and then the potential giver of said donation is shown to have indicated that the donation would only happen if certain favours were granted and then, later that day, the donation is given, it sure does seem to most people that A+B=C.
Imagine if there was a recording of Kirk LP at Kinder Morgan asking for a donation. KM says sure, but we will expect support if he is mayor and then the money is given. You think Vision would not go to town about that? Would everyone here be okay with such a recording? Vision made a big stink about Kirk living at UBC, so clearly they were pretty desperate to highlight some dirt if that was the best they could do.
Hard to say if the net effect of this whole thing was positive or not for Meggs. I think it raised a very valid concern about Vision and it’s sponsors and it seems to me, that would not have helped Vision.
Also surprised that another Green was added to Council. People seemed to have heard Vision’s call not to split/waste your vote on Cope or Green or indies.
Also note the continued an inexplicable bigotry towards candidates with an Indo-Canadian surname. Doesn’t matter what party they ran for, they can’t get elected.
The suggestion of bigotry is inexplicable, as well as incomprehensible; go look at all the ethnic Punjabi candidates (10 or 12) in Surrey that got few votes from tens of thousands of Sikh voters, who really get out and vote. I believe only one was elected.
The one who was elected in Surrey was Tom Gill, who topped the polls, pushing Judy Villeneuve out of first. Three more South Asians finished just out of the seats, well ahead of more distant also-rans like ex-MLA Brenda Locke.
Full disclosure: I volunteered with Vision for the first time in this election. The get-out-the-vote effort was crucial, given the high NPA turnout and vote-splitting with COPE. A lot of people stood in line a long time — over 1 hour at Kitsilano Community Centre — to express their displeasure with the incumbent government. It was only because Vision motivated its base that they managed to hold on to Council.
Many of my acquaintances, only loosely associated with Vision, were kind of spooked at the idea of the urban momentum coming to an abrupt stop. There was a sense that the NPA would dismantle (physically or otherwise) many of Vision’s well-intended initiatives, without offering any specific alternatives. It didn’t take much reflection to realize that voting Vision was necessary, despite reservations. As I noted in a comment above, Mount Pleasant and Grandview went for Vision in overwhelming numbers. Evidently a lot of voters were also spooked at the prospect of a Vision shut-out, enough to get them out to crowded polling stations and avoid ballot-splitting.
That said, part of me thinks five Vision councillors may have been better. Even though Tony Tang swapped out for De Genova, we essentially have the status quo on Council, and no real admonishment of Vision beyond the Park and School Boards. Five Vision councillors would have also forced Carr into the hot seat, and both policy and the Greens might have been better for it.
Nothing has changed. To those of you who wanted change, you failed to bring it about. To those of you who were happy with the status quo….it remains in place.
Absolutely the opposite. The result is a clear rejection of the status quo. Vancouverites voted for a council committed to the difficult changes that are needed to make the city greener and more affordable.
Nonsense. Vision IS the status quo after six years in power. If you have misread the vote that badly I have no doubt Robertson (or more likely his replacement) will be apologizing again in four years.
That must be why they wiped Vision off the Parks Board map. Seems like bike lanes through the middle of parks wasn’t a course many residents agreed with. Or stealing green space for condos at Langara.
“Affordable”? Are you kidding? In six years, the problem has become only far worse. The condo building boom is the opposite of affordable. That’s one of the big Vision lies. How is it that these expensive condo’s get interpreted as making Vancouver more affordable. In six years, Vision has and continues to talk the talk, but with nothing to show for it in what is still the most expensive city in Canada. How does that make Vision in any way a safe bet for affordability?
“How is it that these expensive condo’s get interpreted as making Vancouver more affordable”
Because without them we would have the same number of people chasing fewer homes, and even higher prices.
I live in a building that went up in the last 5 years. If it hadn’t been built, I wouldn’t have given up on Vancouver – I’d have bid up the price on another apartment instead.
Reilly, I agree that more condos helps, but it can hardly be called affordable housing. It’s market rate housing and those prices have gone up, not down. Great that you could afford one, but honestly, so many cannot and that’s the issue. If there was a serious attempt to address this, there would be a requirement to build non-profit, co-op housing. Have any been built?
Building LESS condos makes it more affordable ? Vancouver is land locked. It also has not annexed Richmond or Burnaby, nor Delta nor N-Van nor Langley or Surrey. If it did, the new “Vancouver” would be more affordable. A condo or small house in Langley, N-West, Burnaby, Coquitlam, Delta or N-Van is priced like Calgary, ie far cheaper than the current Vancouver. Burnaby or New West condos can also be had for the low 200’s .. very affordable.
No mayor has influence over house or condo prices, except relaxing building codes (for example, less parking requirement) or more land creation, say in English Bay by Spanish Banks or off Stanley Park, both extremely unlikely to happen.
David: the vast majority of housing in Metro Vancouver is market rate housing, even at the low end, and that’s unlikely to change anytime soon. My friends and family of modest means are mostly living in low-end market housing – policies that make market housing more affordable are helping them.
I completely agree that more non-market housing is needed, but I’d place that blame on higher levels of government. Social housing is a social welfare program, and those should be funded by higher levels of government – otherwise you end up with situations where wealthy municipalities like West Van don’t have to contribute. Imagine if municipalities were responsible for healthcare and Old Age Security – yikes.
At the end of the day, it seems we tend to agree that the mayor has little control over affordability, but building co-op housing would be a help and none of that has happened under Vision.
No, I wouldn’t say we agree on that. Demand for housing is largely out of municipal governments’ hands, but they have a lot of control over housing supply.
Even more affordable ? Vancouver’s property taxes are very low (per $100,000 assessed value, the lowest in the country actually) as the corporate taxes are very high, too high many (like me) would argue. The property values will continue to escalate unless additional density AND additional land is created. Until that is done no party really can impact affordability.
What is missing also is a serious debate on what is acceptable, and what is excessive immigration into Canada, specifically MetroVan, and what taxes should be leveled on foreign investors / non-residents who pay little income taxes.
The mill rate is no basis for comparing property tax because Vancouver houses are very expensive. Running this city is not any more expensive than running other major Canadian cities (maybe cheaper because less snow cleanup) so one has to look at how much a person with a certain type of house pays in each city. By that equation, Vancouver is not by any means “very low”.
Thomas Beyer would you please take the land lift into account and admit that housing built for investors who are not part of the local economy can confuse supply and demand economics.
Building your way to affordability is absolute folly in our market and i have a very hard time seeing why people like you haven’t noticed that. Mind you, people will cling to ideas after the logic has been dismissed when money is involved. Tearing down what is affordable (and/or unattractive as investment property) does not help, period.
Jenables is right, so how does Vision get away with claiming that they are doing something about affordability when they are just building expensive condos. Yes, there is more rental stock, but at $1,500 for a studio.
Was the parks board changeover a repudiation of the plan to take over community centres from local associations, and/or irritation with overreach on the regulation of reproducing whales? At any rate, Robertson and Heppner must now lead the pro-transit side of the referendum where so much is at stake. From Langley to UBC, bring on the Innovation Corridor!
One thing is clear. There are some people who claim to be community representatives that don’t represent the views of many people in the community. Even worse, they claim the city is not listening to them while they aren’t even listening to others in the community.
Richard, this is clearly a dig at the people who disagree with your views, which I suspect may also not be the views of the wider community. Why do you find it so hard to accept that other people have opinions which are legitimate, even if they are not what you think? Are you the community representative who listens to others? Honestly, I’m not trying to have a dig at you. I don’t have issue with your right to your opinion, but you have this habit of dissing other people just for the fact that they have a different view. That their opinions somehow don’t count. We all part of a community and our views are genuine.
And if we had wards (the norm in municipal government) Vision would likely have fared worse as there are many neighbourhoods who don’t feel represented. Calling for a ward system has long been the hallmark of progressive parties in Vancouver, but you will notice it never crosses Vision’s lips.
Yes, Richard: what is most important from this election is that the people of Vancouver have spoken (and in greater numbers than in past elections). The people have made it clear, once and for all, that they support Vision and its policies. The naysayers prior to the election have been a vocal minority resistant to change who fraudulently claimed to represent the majority. Too bad the defamation suit could not be expanded to include the entire lot.
How can you say that when almost the same amount of people voted for the NPA for mayor, that all these voices simply do not count? Why do you want a defamation suit to include “the entire lot”. I just don’t understand this hate towards the thousands in this city who have a different view. This is not some tiny number, it was just a little less than Vision got.
And I should remind you that in the park board, where the whole bike lane through Kits was to be decided, the NPA now controls and there is but one Vision rep. So by your standard, I guess “the people have made it clear” how they feel about bike lanes through parks. Will you be accepting that decision? Somehow, I doubt it. Logic is fun, isn’t it?
Susan, I did not say that got the same, I said that Kirk got “almost the same”. I think 10k difference is almost, but at the very least, 73k is a lot of people voting for the other guy. How can you say that 73k voters just do not count at all in terms of their voice? In fact, Vancouver has spoken and while Gregor won, and we have to respect that in a democracy, there clearly were a lot of voices not aligned to his Vision.
There was no ballot resolution not requiring further votes on changes to parks. The resolution only pertained to financing, but decisions still need to be taken by the board on how they spend those funds. Anyway, not sure what that has to do with anything. The people spoke as regards the park board (by your standard of “people speaking”) and so why not accept that since they voted in people who are opposed to the bike path in Kits Beach, let it go and accept the decision? Are you willing to do that, out of respect for the peoples voice and the democratic process?
I would say that NPA may have made a tactical error in seeming to be the party of the car. A sort of Rob Ford light campaign of the car dependent suburbs vs. bus dependent and mostly renter streetcar districts. Free parking, counterflow lanes, focus on congestion, etc. It clouded the message of “working with the neighbourhoods” which i thought, naturally enough, was a potential winner. LaPoint tried to say that NPA had been the party where a lot of the urban advances (yaletown, bike lanes, sea walls) were made. But nobody heard that. They heard “loves cars and loves tankers – hates bikes and hates nature and is funded by Koch brothers”. Anyway, support for Vision went down a lot in the “urban” districts of Strathcona and GW. But not enough to overcome what must have been a real lack of enthusiasm for the NPA message. http://blogs.vancouversun.com/2014/11/16/interactive-map-shows-you-how-your-vancouver-neighbourhood-voted/#__federated=1
I agree. The message from the NPA did not effectively counter this view. Gregor made such hay about his opposition to tankers, when he can’t do a thing about them and, in fact, tanker traffic has gone up 111% under Vision. No one seems to have noticed that. Kirk said he would go to the pipeline hearings and demand the highest safety standards. Guess what, Gregor will not be able to do anything more than that.
Couple of thoughts:
1) The lower vote for Vision is the product of spent political capital. When you have a big majority, you either use it to make change knowing that it will result in worse performances in coming elections or you try to be all things to all people in a holding patternand sacrificing real change. The purpose of a big electoral majority is not to perpetuate it but to use it. I hope the Vision strategists don’t internalize the “sending a message” point of this election and move to a holding pattern. Municipal politics is about making the tough decisions that actually improve the city (at the cost to some); it should not be about creating a perpetual governing party.
2) It will be very interesting to see how council sets itself up in the next four years. Vision is in an interesting position with many of their influential members getting long on the political arc. What would the ideal strategy for that party be with Robertson and senior councillors potentially moving on? One approach would be to continue to shape the axis on which Vancouver politics are fought. That would require more determination on community densification, green initiatives, and transport alternatives. It would come at further electoral cost for Vision but it would set up the long-game where all parties vie to “own” the green, bike, progressive agenda setting up durable political change.
2) The NPA tightening the race in the last two weeks clearly worked to Vision’s benefit. It was clear through the Vision communications later in the campaign that the tightening was what they needed to motivate their supporters. I think the lessons of the provincial election were all too recent and that Vision knew they were up against a very motivated NPA base. Communications from Vision stressed how an NPA government was a real possibility, clearly leveraging fear and loss, power motivators for human behaviour. Had Lapointe’s team trailed behind at 6-10 pp I think that Vision would have been more vulnerable for a change in government similar to what happened to the NDP. It’s no surprise based on the overlap between those parties that they went negative and fearful. Once bitten, twice shy.
3)What if the NPA only ran a slate of 6 candidates for council? Did the NPA run of a full slate make their vote less efficient? 3 of the top 4 councillors were NPA. Have to think that they could have made a council majority if their vote wasn’t spread out over the last 5 candidates. Meggs and Stevenson won with less than 1 percentage point on the next NPA councillors in line.
Point 3 is most telling. Any notion that this Vision somehow represents the will of the people is really not supported by how close this was. Hopefully Vision will learn that it needs to listen rather than becoming even more entrenched in it’s pet projects. Certainly the park and school board will be open to wider thinking now.
Regarding the Vancouver Aquarium breeding ban to be lifted by NPA commissioners. “So you run on a platform that Vision pushes its ideology without due consultation and this is the first thing you do?” -Sean Orr from Scout Magazine
That comment makes no sense. What the NPA is doing is saying that they are not going to ram through the change that Vision had planned. In other words, keep the status quo and in fact, examine the issue further and in consultation with the Aquarium. I support consultation, but are you suggesting that the public should be consulted on things that are not going to happen?
I see Scott, so when Vision implements things without much consultation, that were only hinted at during a campaign, it’s OK. But when the NPA moves to do something they clearly stated they would during the campaign, something that obviously the voters agreed with as they handed Vision a huge drubbing on the Parks Board, it’s some sort of wide-eyed ideological fanaticism. Got it.
Far better to reverse the ridiculous policy now and save both the city and the Aquarium the unnecessary expense of going to court.
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Hello Gordon,
A few initial observations from overseas:
1. Vancouver
Not disappointed that Gregor & Vision got another mandate. They deserve it, though I hope that there will be some changes in the way Council conducts themselves in dealing with the public (not to say that they should cave on implementing their plans, but managing public process better and genuinely listening).
A change at the top of the administration would definitely help, and perhaps restore morale at City Hall.
I am happy to see Geoff Meggs re-elected, though he came perilously close, and there are one or two deadheads (both Vision and NPA) who I would rather have seen bumped for fresh and brighter talent. COPE finished as they should – nowhere.
2. City of North Vancouver –
Glad to have Darrell, Craig and Linda back. Distressing to see how close Kerry Morris came – a bona fide homophobe and bigot. Also disappointed to see Rod Clark get re-elected. He is by no means a credit to the City.
3. District of North Van
Interesting to see Lisa Muri and Doug Mackay-Dunn take top spots, given their mostly anti-growth voting. With several new faces on board, it will be interesting to see if this Council has the will and the guts to implement its OCP. That seemed to be a struggle for the last Council – which adopted it.
See your still alive Chuck and still as pleasant . Thought you had died ? Well there is always hope . Harbourside moved ahead with out you I see ..
Ron, you are a jerk.
and your comments make you a saint ?
When you are back you can say that to my face if you like.
Vision got a scare. They lost control of the school board and the park board, had their council majority reduced and had a closer call than usual in the mayoralty results. The main reason for the setbacks, at first glance, seems to be COPE’s lack of cooperation with Vision this time around. The centre-left vote was split. So I don’t think Vision will need to make major policy adjustments, but they’ll want to do some tweaking with regard to public perception of their commitment to community consultation, density targets along transportation corridors and ability to solve homelessness.
I see COPE as very different to Vision and I know that they totally reject the link now. They see Vision for what they are, which is a faux green party, in bed with developers and run by a millionaire who is funded by Americans like The Tides Foundation. COPE voters feel that COPE is a truer left wing option, not Vision light.
Vision ran a very smart campaign. At the end of the day GOTV (get out the vote) is what matters most and they succeeded at that.
My hope now is that with a four year mandate there will be a more collaborative spirit at City Hall and will tackle planning and affordable housing in a thoughtful way.
I can’t wait for the counters on the SB burrard bridge to start counting!
On to the transit referendum. Not too many serious changes to the Mayors who form the Mayor’s council. Next step — find a leader.
After that — what do we do with Jericho, RCMP HQ, Arbutus corridor . . .
Oh yes – and finish the work on the new Point Grey Road.
For fun, keep watch on Kirk LaPointe (he’s come, he’s gone). Like Susanne Anton, does he get rewarded with a place in that Neocon / Fraser Institute world of Clark Provincial or Harper Federal gov’t? Maybe he can front their climate change denial efforts.
What else is there to do on PGR? Unless you mean putting it back the way it was. :o)
Yes, PGR can now proceed with the upgrades to the sewers, improved lighting, sidewalk widening, installing the cul de sac at Trutch, repaving and better signage. A half-done project has been quite frustrating to live with, causing some uncertainty for commuters and others to figure out which way they should go. Looking forward to finalizing the project.
The surface of PGR is very rough in parts. Not complaining but it’d be a stupendous path with a smoother surface.
The electoral results map will be quite telling, now and we’ll into the future. If the North vs. south of 16th Avenue divide holds, it will show that generally denser areas prefer the centre left while the less dense or suburban areas prefer centre right. Similar to blue and red states in the US of A.
If true, it will also show that the GW Plan and Rize kerfuffles didn’t tick off their respectives ‘hoods as a lot of people might have thought. Certainly my millennial children living in Mt. Pleasant and central Main Street remained pro-Vision (bikes, environment, etc., etc.).
The Mount Pleasant and Granview votes were actually the most interesting of the evening. For all the noise we’ve heard over the past months about disgust with Vision in these neighbourhoods, they went for Robertson and incumbent Vision councillors at crushing margins.
It was obvious from very early in the campaign that COPE wasn’t going to be a viable alternative to Vision and NPA is still not aligned with the core values of Mount Pleasant and GW.
I was concerned that voters in these neighbourhoods were going to be unhappy with Vision enough to just stay home on election day, but clearly the thought of NPA rule was distressing enough that they came out and voted.
“f the North vs. south of 16th Avenue divide holds, it will show that generally denser areas prefer the centre left while the less dense or suburban areas prefer centre right.”
Good point. I’d note that that gives Vision an incentive to densify wherever it’s politically possible – if they can bring in new voters without annoying too many existing residents, it’s a win for them. I’m quite happy with that.
For those who like numbers: Vision Mayor got 46.0% of popular vote (53.2 % in 2011). NPA mayor: 40.2 % (40.4 % in 2011). Wong 9.2% (2.8% in 2011 for Helten). Looks like a classic vote-split, with NPA’s share staying near to identical.
Council: Vision (6) down one; NPA (3) up one; Green (1) stays the same. Still a comfortable Vision majority.
Parks: Vision (1) down 4, NPA (4) up 2; Greens (2) up 2. Now NPA-controlled.
School: Vision (4) down one, NPA (4) up one, Green (1) up one — holding balance of power.
All money measures pass easily with 2:1 majority.
I figured Roberson would win, but not by the margin he did. I am surprised that LaPointe received a smaller share of the popular vote than Anton did in 2011.
Glad to see some more balance on council, yet with a majority to get things through. Will be interesting to see how the school board lines up.
For the next 4 years, until Nov 2018, we’ll see:
– some distasteful battles with the Vision Council attempting to override the Park Board’s jurisdiction.
– Broadway mega-transit is dead, a good thing, as now the clear task is to properly populate Jericho, instead of daily shipping students & staff across town from less-pricey housing in East Van to campus.
– possibly 1 or 2 Vision councillors running (w/o losing a coumcil majority) for the Nearly Dead Party in the May 2017 provincial election, and then – if they’re in a riding that safely votes for a losing party – resigning, causing a mid-term byelection. The only motivation is to bump up from $68k to $102k/annum.
– come to think of it, a skip from majority rule at the civic level to the perpetual comfort of MLA opposition might be a safe move, if after a decade-long regime, Vision is decimated at the next civic election. Yes, I too thought of the end of the lost decade – BC has a history of almost extincting the Left if they’re given too much term. However, there’s enough transparency in large cities (and Vision has enough decency), not to see a repeat of the criminality of BingoGate, CasinoGate, etc.
– I agree with Chuck above, although ‘dead wood’ is the word I’d use. There were a handful of genuine candidates – of various stripes – that would have added much more value rather than old dawg Tim Stevenson, who I believe will be 75 or so when this next term ends. Shows how slavishly blind Vision voters can be; many may be unaware he came from that oportunistic, late 90s NDP, the most corrupt (and criminal) regime in BC history. His sole purpose now is to be nudged awake by Heather to raise a hand to make sure a Vision vote passes. Would be better to allow someone like Reimer or Meggs to use both hands.
Vision isn’t the Left. They are the same developer driven clique that has ruled Vancouver for decades but with a smear of green.
Vision is union-driven. Clearly.
Vision ~drives~ homebuilders, and – through staff – makes them pay. Dearly.
I always figured Vision was the centre. For those further to the right, they look like the left. For those further to the left, they look like the right. For those against the unions, they appear union driven. For those against developers, they appear developer driven.
I can assure you that any builder or architect or developer I know (and I know a few) are happy with Vision because they know how developer friendly Vision is. Vision has progressive, left leaning ideas, but at the same time, market driven, capitalist aspirations with the masses of development. They are very devious at treading both political ideals. Nice and green, opposing tankers they can do zero about and building bike lanes. At the same time, they hire a campaign strategist straight from Christy Clark’s campaign and a another guy who was a lobbyist for Chevron. Sneaky!
So Gregor was elected on a promise of no tankers (see above) and his number one priority, a Broadway subway, which I am certain will go nowhere. Certainly not in this term.
So I would disagree with Jeff because I think they have their foot in different political areas and they hide these strange alliances very well. COPE is the true left. I see Green as a moderate left and NPA as a more centrist, progressive party. I know they were constantly called out as being right and even far right, but their policies and candidates just don’t support that smear. They have candidates who are passionate about supporting arts, they introduced more bike lanes than Vision has, they saved the Bloedel Conservatory and they have done no less for the DTES than Vision, but Vision promised much more and failed miserably. In fact, the NPA fully support Insight, which was created under the NPA as well. Yes, the same Insight that Harper tried to shut down. How does that vibe with the NPA being in the same camp as Harper? It just doesn’t.
I always find it amusing that people think transit is solely and completely about people travelling from one end of a transit line to the other. And for some reason no one ever gets on or off in the middle. Except that they do, always.
If ever you ride a transit line (in any city, and Metro Vancouver is no exception), you will see this is true. Check out the Metrotown station, for example.
I think the Broadway subway is alive and well, and its purpose is to move people back and forth along BC’s second-largest employment area. And yes, there will be many sub-groups among them. Medical workers, retail workers, students, people connecting to Canada Line for Richmond, downtown or the airport.
It is also likely that the line will now include a station at the Jericho lands. This will vastly influence the development there, and may draw the Provincial Gov’t into transit, since this station will greatly influence the value of the large and lucrative Jericho Hill lands to the west of the Jericho Garrison lands now in play.
Oh what fun it is to play on a sunny bright new day.
As long as there is a Federal Conservative government there will be no money flowing to Vancouver for megaprojects. Surrey will be first in line for any largesse in that department. The same will hold true at the provincial level while the BC Liberals are in power.
Exactly; the subway is neither alive nor well, in fact, has been neither. Can’t have a 3-person card game with 1 person. Sufficient density in Jericho will free up considerable capacity of the existing, daylighted bus system.
By the time funding is needed, we will likely have a new federal government that is more suportive of transit and not wasting money on unneeded tax cuts for people that don’t need them. Many of the people involved with the other two federal parties are also involved in Vision.
“new federal government” .. don’t count on it as the economy is humming and life is GREAT in Canada .. far better than elsewhere .. tax cuts for families is EXACTLY what is required in a country too reliant on (excessive) immigration .. more babies “made in Canada” is what we need.
Taxation levels (GST, corporate taxes and income taxes) are far FAR too high on the federal level .. and if they were lower we could tax higher on the local / city level to build public transit.
Cities need to tax more, for example local sales taxes, and feds far less.
Indeed. Alma @ Broadway is only a few blocks from Jericho Lands and with high density there a subway below Broadway makes sense to at least there, as opposed to Arbutus, and then onwards towards UBC, perhaps as a surface LRT line along 4th as there is space and no housing.
we shall see. maybe I live to see it. maybe by 2040 ?
It’s puzzling that voters punished Vision at the Parks Board level but not at Council though Meggs seemed in danger of reaping anger directed at them.
LaPointe did well for someone nobody had heard of a few months ago. Maybe he’ll try to unseat David Eby in the next provincial election. Surprised another Green wasn’t added to Council.
or on the federal level in Vancouver Quadra.
I wonder if this was because the Parks board was a “safe” protest vote, much as the Parks Board tends to be the farm team.
I almost forgot. More political learning opportunities are out there, aside from watching Mr. LaPointe and the possibility of him reaping his reward.
What will happen to the lawsuit Vision launched against the NPA? Was it serious, or was it an election stunt, or both? Will it slither ignominiously to a negotiated settlement? Will it erupt in lawyerly flamboyance at a hearing or trial?
Hopefully a negotiated settlement with an apology. LaPointe used a phrase in his concession speech about “the campaign not bringing out the best in us” which I took as a reference to the ads.
If it did go to court, it would mean that Vision has to defend it’s relationship with CUPE, which might reveal things they would rather not reveal. I suspect it will drift away. Otherwise, wait to see a statement of defence from NPA, but I doubt it will even get there. More an election stunt, it seems.
No, that’s not the way defamation suits work. LaPointe would have demonstrate his claim was true, that it was an example of corruption.
How defamation works in Canada: http://rabble.ca/blogs/bloggers/labour-news/2014/10/10-things-all-activists-should-know-about-defamation
I hope Vision follows through on the defamation suit against the NPA; it would set a precedent going forward to dissuade candidates in future elections from resorting to overt dishonesty in an attempt to gain votes.
Here’s Charlie Smith’s take, with material from Geoff Meggs.
http://www.straight.com/news/771801/why-gregor-robertson-and-geoff-meggs-may-continue-libel-suit-against-npas-kirk-lapointe
The article is interesting. As I say, I will be interested to read the NPA statement of defense, but it seems to me that if you go to a meeting and ask for a donation and then the potential giver of said donation is shown to have indicated that the donation would only happen if certain favours were granted and then, later that day, the donation is given, it sure does seem to most people that A+B=C.
Imagine if there was a recording of Kirk LP at Kinder Morgan asking for a donation. KM says sure, but we will expect support if he is mayor and then the money is given. You think Vision would not go to town about that? Would everyone here be okay with such a recording? Vision made a big stink about Kirk living at UBC, so clearly they were pretty desperate to highlight some dirt if that was the best they could do.
Hard to say if the net effect of this whole thing was positive or not for Meggs. I think it raised a very valid concern about Vision and it’s sponsors and it seems to me, that would not have helped Vision.
Also surprised that another Green was added to Council. People seemed to have heard Vision’s call not to split/waste your vote on Cope or Green or indies.
Also note the continued an inexplicable bigotry towards candidates with an Indo-Canadian surname. Doesn’t matter what party they ran for, they can’t get elected.
The suggestion of bigotry is inexplicable, as well as incomprehensible; go look at all the ethnic Punjabi candidates (10 or 12) in Surrey that got few votes from tens of thousands of Sikh voters, who really get out and vote. I believe only one was elected.
The one who was elected in Surrey was Tom Gill, who topped the polls, pushing Judy Villeneuve out of first. Three more South Asians finished just out of the seats, well ahead of more distant also-rans like ex-MLA Brenda Locke.
Full disclosure: I volunteered with Vision for the first time in this election. The get-out-the-vote effort was crucial, given the high NPA turnout and vote-splitting with COPE. A lot of people stood in line a long time — over 1 hour at Kitsilano Community Centre — to express their displeasure with the incumbent government. It was only because Vision motivated its base that they managed to hold on to Council.
Many of my acquaintances, only loosely associated with Vision, were kind of spooked at the idea of the urban momentum coming to an abrupt stop. There was a sense that the NPA would dismantle (physically or otherwise) many of Vision’s well-intended initiatives, without offering any specific alternatives. It didn’t take much reflection to realize that voting Vision was necessary, despite reservations. As I noted in a comment above, Mount Pleasant and Grandview went for Vision in overwhelming numbers. Evidently a lot of voters were also spooked at the prospect of a Vision shut-out, enough to get them out to crowded polling stations and avoid ballot-splitting.
That said, part of me thinks five Vision councillors may have been better. Even though Tony Tang swapped out for De Genova, we essentially have the status quo on Council, and no real admonishment of Vision beyond the Park and School Boards. Five Vision councillors would have also forced Carr into the hot seat, and both policy and the Greens might have been better for it.
Well said, Chris.
Nothing has changed. To those of you who wanted change, you failed to bring it about. To those of you who were happy with the status quo….it remains in place.
Absolutely the opposite. The result is a clear rejection of the status quo. Vancouverites voted for a council committed to the difficult changes that are needed to make the city greener and more affordable.
Nonsense. Vision IS the status quo after six years in power. If you have misread the vote that badly I have no doubt Robertson (or more likely his replacement) will be apologizing again in four years.
Voters have said that they like the course we’re on, and we need to continue making the same kinds of changes so as to get closer to the destination.
That must be why they wiped Vision off the Parks Board map. Seems like bike lanes through the middle of parks wasn’t a course many residents agreed with. Or stealing green space for condos at Langara.
“Affordable”? Are you kidding? In six years, the problem has become only far worse. The condo building boom is the opposite of affordable. That’s one of the big Vision lies. How is it that these expensive condo’s get interpreted as making Vancouver more affordable. In six years, Vision has and continues to talk the talk, but with nothing to show for it in what is still the most expensive city in Canada. How does that make Vision in any way a safe bet for affordability?
“How is it that these expensive condo’s get interpreted as making Vancouver more affordable”
Because without them we would have the same number of people chasing fewer homes, and even higher prices.
I live in a building that went up in the last 5 years. If it hadn’t been built, I wouldn’t have given up on Vancouver – I’d have bid up the price on another apartment instead.
Reilly, I agree that more condos helps, but it can hardly be called affordable housing. It’s market rate housing and those prices have gone up, not down. Great that you could afford one, but honestly, so many cannot and that’s the issue. If there was a serious attempt to address this, there would be a requirement to build non-profit, co-op housing. Have any been built?
Building LESS condos makes it more affordable ? Vancouver is land locked. It also has not annexed Richmond or Burnaby, nor Delta nor N-Van nor Langley or Surrey. If it did, the new “Vancouver” would be more affordable. A condo or small house in Langley, N-West, Burnaby, Coquitlam, Delta or N-Van is priced like Calgary, ie far cheaper than the current Vancouver. Burnaby or New West condos can also be had for the low 200’s .. very affordable.
No mayor has influence over house or condo prices, except relaxing building codes (for example, less parking requirement) or more land creation, say in English Bay by Spanish Banks or off Stanley Park, both extremely unlikely to happen.
David: the vast majority of housing in Metro Vancouver is market rate housing, even at the low end, and that’s unlikely to change anytime soon. My friends and family of modest means are mostly living in low-end market housing – policies that make market housing more affordable are helping them.
I completely agree that more non-market housing is needed, but I’d place that blame on higher levels of government. Social housing is a social welfare program, and those should be funded by higher levels of government – otherwise you end up with situations where wealthy municipalities like West Van don’t have to contribute. Imagine if municipalities were responsible for healthcare and Old Age Security – yikes.
At the end of the day, it seems we tend to agree that the mayor has little control over affordability, but building co-op housing would be a help and none of that has happened under Vision.
No, I wouldn’t say we agree on that. Demand for housing is largely out of municipal governments’ hands, but they have a lot of control over housing supply.
Even more affordable ? Vancouver’s property taxes are very low (per $100,000 assessed value, the lowest in the country actually) as the corporate taxes are very high, too high many (like me) would argue. The property values will continue to escalate unless additional density AND additional land is created. Until that is done no party really can impact affordability.
What is missing also is a serious debate on what is acceptable, and what is excessive immigration into Canada, specifically MetroVan, and what taxes should be leveled on foreign investors / non-residents who pay little income taxes.
The mill rate is no basis for comparing property tax because Vancouver houses are very expensive. Running this city is not any more expensive than running other major Canadian cities (maybe cheaper because less snow cleanup) so one has to look at how much a person with a certain type of house pays in each city. By that equation, Vancouver is not by any means “very low”.
Thomas Beyer would you please take the land lift into account and admit that housing built for investors who are not part of the local economy can confuse supply and demand economics.
Building your way to affordability is absolute folly in our market and i have a very hard time seeing why people like you haven’t noticed that. Mind you, people will cling to ideas after the logic has been dismissed when money is involved. Tearing down what is affordable (and/or unattractive as investment property) does not help, period.
Yes, exactly.
Jenables is right, so how does Vision get away with claiming that they are doing something about affordability when they are just building expensive condos. Yes, there is more rental stock, but at $1,500 for a studio.
Was the parks board changeover a repudiation of the plan to take over community centres from local associations, and/or irritation with overreach on the regulation of reproducing whales? At any rate, Robertson and Heppner must now lead the pro-transit side of the referendum where so much is at stake. From Langley to UBC, bring on the Innovation Corridor!
One thing is clear. There are some people who claim to be community representatives that don’t represent the views of many people in the community. Even worse, they claim the city is not listening to them while they aren’t even listening to others in the community.
Richard, this is clearly a dig at the people who disagree with your views, which I suspect may also not be the views of the wider community. Why do you find it so hard to accept that other people have opinions which are legitimate, even if they are not what you think? Are you the community representative who listens to others? Honestly, I’m not trying to have a dig at you. I don’t have issue with your right to your opinion, but you have this habit of dissing other people just for the fact that they have a different view. That their opinions somehow don’t count. We all part of a community and our views are genuine.
And if we had wards (the norm in municipal government) Vision would likely have fared worse as there are many neighbourhoods who don’t feel represented. Calling for a ward system has long been the hallmark of progressive parties in Vancouver, but you will notice it never crosses Vision’s lips.
Yes, Richard: what is most important from this election is that the people of Vancouver have spoken (and in greater numbers than in past elections). The people have made it clear, once and for all, that they support Vision and its policies. The naysayers prior to the election have been a vocal minority resistant to change who fraudulently claimed to represent the majority. Too bad the defamation suit could not be expanded to include the entire lot.
How can you say that when almost the same amount of people voted for the NPA for mayor, that all these voices simply do not count? Why do you want a defamation suit to include “the entire lot”. I just don’t understand this hate towards the thousands in this city who have a different view. This is not some tiny number, it was just a little less than Vision got.
And I should remind you that in the park board, where the whole bike lane through Kits was to be decided, the NPA now controls and there is but one Vision rep. So by your standard, I guess “the people have made it clear” how they feel about bike lanes through parks. Will you be accepting that decision? Somehow, I doubt it. Logic is fun, isn’t it?
David,
You have forgotten about the ballot resolution votes on further consultation not required re decisions on changes to parks.
A 10,000 vote difference between Robertson and LaPointe does not constitute “the same” number of people voting for each mayoral candidate.
Susan, I did not say that got the same, I said that Kirk got “almost the same”. I think 10k difference is almost, but at the very least, 73k is a lot of people voting for the other guy. How can you say that 73k voters just do not count at all in terms of their voice? In fact, Vancouver has spoken and while Gregor won, and we have to respect that in a democracy, there clearly were a lot of voices not aligned to his Vision.
There was no ballot resolution not requiring further votes on changes to parks. The resolution only pertained to financing, but decisions still need to be taken by the board on how they spend those funds. Anyway, not sure what that has to do with anything. The people spoke as regards the park board (by your standard of “people speaking”) and so why not accept that since they voted in people who are opposed to the bike path in Kits Beach, let it go and accept the decision? Are you willing to do that, out of respect for the peoples voice and the democratic process?
I would say that NPA may have made a tactical error in seeming to be the party of the car. A sort of Rob Ford light campaign of the car dependent suburbs vs. bus dependent and mostly renter streetcar districts. Free parking, counterflow lanes, focus on congestion, etc. It clouded the message of “working with the neighbourhoods” which i thought, naturally enough, was a potential winner. LaPoint tried to say that NPA had been the party where a lot of the urban advances (yaletown, bike lanes, sea walls) were made. But nobody heard that. They heard “loves cars and loves tankers – hates bikes and hates nature and is funded by Koch brothers”. Anyway, support for Vision went down a lot in the “urban” districts of Strathcona and GW. But not enough to overcome what must have been a real lack of enthusiasm for the NPA message.
http://blogs.vancouversun.com/2014/11/16/interactive-map-shows-you-how-your-vancouver-neighbourhood-voted/#__federated=1
I agree. The message from the NPA did not effectively counter this view. Gregor made such hay about his opposition to tankers, when he can’t do a thing about them and, in fact, tanker traffic has gone up 111% under Vision. No one seems to have noticed that. Kirk said he would go to the pipeline hearings and demand the highest safety standards. Guess what, Gregor will not be able to do anything more than that.
If you look at the polls the NPA is the party of Yaletown. And Coal Harbour.
If you look at the results, Robertson led LaPointe by 13% downtown (Coal Harbour and Yaletown) and by 15% in Kits.
Couple of thoughts:
1) The lower vote for Vision is the product of spent political capital. When you have a big majority, you either use it to make change knowing that it will result in worse performances in coming elections or you try to be all things to all people in a holding patternand sacrificing real change. The purpose of a big electoral majority is not to perpetuate it but to use it. I hope the Vision strategists don’t internalize the “sending a message” point of this election and move to a holding pattern. Municipal politics is about making the tough decisions that actually improve the city (at the cost to some); it should not be about creating a perpetual governing party.
2) It will be very interesting to see how council sets itself up in the next four years. Vision is in an interesting position with many of their influential members getting long on the political arc. What would the ideal strategy for that party be with Robertson and senior councillors potentially moving on? One approach would be to continue to shape the axis on which Vancouver politics are fought. That would require more determination on community densification, green initiatives, and transport alternatives. It would come at further electoral cost for Vision but it would set up the long-game where all parties vie to “own” the green, bike, progressive agenda setting up durable political change.
2) The NPA tightening the race in the last two weeks clearly worked to Vision’s benefit. It was clear through the Vision communications later in the campaign that the tightening was what they needed to motivate their supporters. I think the lessons of the provincial election were all too recent and that Vision knew they were up against a very motivated NPA base. Communications from Vision stressed how an NPA government was a real possibility, clearly leveraging fear and loss, power motivators for human behaviour. Had Lapointe’s team trailed behind at 6-10 pp I think that Vision would have been more vulnerable for a change in government similar to what happened to the NDP. It’s no surprise based on the overlap between those parties that they went negative and fearful. Once bitten, twice shy.
3)What if the NPA only ran a slate of 6 candidates for council? Did the NPA run of a full slate make their vote less efficient? 3 of the top 4 councillors were NPA. Have to think that they could have made a council majority if their vote wasn’t spread out over the last 5 candidates. Meggs and Stevenson won with less than 1 percentage point on the next NPA councillors in line.
Point 3 is most telling. Any notion that this Vision somehow represents the will of the people is really not supported by how close this was. Hopefully Vision will learn that it needs to listen rather than becoming even more entrenched in it’s pet projects. Certainly the park and school board will be open to wider thinking now.
Enough of this – time to get serious about the referendum. Odd to find myself in agreement with Daphne Bramham
http://bit.ly/1xPT8q4
Regarding the Vancouver Aquarium breeding ban to be lifted by NPA commissioners. “So you run on a platform that Vision pushes its ideology without due consultation and this is the first thing you do?” -Sean Orr from Scout Magazine
That comment makes no sense. What the NPA is doing is saying that they are not going to ram through the change that Vision had planned. In other words, keep the status quo and in fact, examine the issue further and in consultation with the Aquarium. I support consultation, but are you suggesting that the public should be consulted on things that are not going to happen?
I see Scott, so when Vision implements things without much consultation, that were only hinted at during a campaign, it’s OK. But when the NPA moves to do something they clearly stated they would during the campaign, something that obviously the voters agreed with as they handed Vision a huge drubbing on the Parks Board, it’s some sort of wide-eyed ideological fanaticism. Got it.
Far better to reverse the ridiculous policy now and save both the city and the Aquarium the unnecessary expense of going to court.